Friday, September 23, 2005

A possible reason why it took so long for some conservatives to become disenchanted with Bush

The first comment to Drezner's "Greetings, disenchanted conservatives" was made by Josh Yelon, and I think it is right (as in correct):
Funny, these are the same guys who idolized him for the first five years of his presidency. What changed, all of a sudden? Certainly not Bush, he is still acting the same way he has his entire career.

What's changed is that after five years of presidency, the elections are finally over. It is now safe to criticise Bush, because such criticism can't possibly matter any more - it can't affect his reelection chances.

Forgive me if I don't perceive this as responsible conservatism. Responsibility would have been criticising him before it's too late to do anything about his weaknesses. Responsibility would have been getting Mike Brown out of there before Katrina hit. Responsibility would have been getting Rumsfeld out of there before Iraq was a total loss. What we're seeing now isn't just too little, too late --- it's *intentionally* too little, too late. The criticism was intentionally postponed until it no longer mattered.
And here is a related comment from a poster named Jasper:
The fact is that most conservatives (except the Buchanan types) fell into line easily pre-war. Post-war, for a long time, many conservatives kept (and keep) on saying that things were just hunky-dory in iraq and the fault was that of the evil media in focusing on the half a dozen car bombs a week. Finally, when the problems became too much to paper over, some have tried to cover their butts by complaining a little about the administration (although most of their ink seems to be spent criticizing the evil liberals over Iraq).

With notable exceptions such as Chuck Hagel, there has [been] little genuine open minded criticism from conservatives over Iraq policy (not just specific points).

While Dan (a nominal conservative who voted for Kerry) has been far more critical of the administration on Iraq, the fact is that many right-wing bloggers (including Instapundit) spend most of their time blaming the media.
Pat Buchanan, whose conservative credentials are well established, has been critical of Bush on some matters, and some conservative or right-leaning bloggers--such as Drezner and Andrew Sullivan--have been raising concerns and complaints about the Bush administration since before the election, but anyone who wants to dispute the comments above is pretty much wrong.

And this brings me back to matters I have raised previously. The first comes from the previous post: WHAT THE HELL TOOK YOU SO LONG TO BECOME DISENCHANTED? The second matter comes from Next part of the extended rant: Bush is like a deer in headlights, specifically a comment by Bill Maher about Bush just sitting there when he was informed of the 9-11 attack: "[I]f you defend a President for sitting there for even one second after he is told America is under attack, you are loyal to a person more than you are to the truth, to a principle, or to your country."

And together these two matters bring me to a huge complaint I have about Bush and everyone who has so steadfastly supported and defended him. See, Maher was on the right track, but he did not go far enough. The GOP has not been about loyalty to a person. Before I proceed, I must say I will be painting with a very broad brush. My comments--and they are going to be harsh--do not apply to every Republican, but they are widely applicable, especially here in Texas.

Bush and the Republican party are all about getting and keeping power. Policy is at best secondary. Other consequences are not important. It started with Newt Gingrich and Lee Atwater, and Bush, Cheney, Rove, DeLay, etc. have taken the cause to great extremes. And before anybody starts whining about Clinton and how he disgraced the office, please compare lying under oath about an extra-marital affair to getting us in a war on false pretenses, completely screwing up the post-war effort, spending close to $200 billion on that war with no end in sight, failing to really provide for Homeland Security, almost 2000 military deaths in Iraq, and on and on and on. So much of what the Bush administration and the GOP-controlled Congress have done is so full of abject stupidity and hypocrisy I do not see any explanation other than "we have the power and we are going to make sure we keep it."

Anybody think I'm crazy? Well, explain to me why under this Republican regime the deficit is setting new records every day. Explain to me why Bush and the Republican Congress have increased the federal bureaucracy and made it more complicated and inefficient (through the Homeland Security Act). Explain to me why under Bush and the Republican Congress the federal government now has more power, which is to say explain why power has become more centralized in the federal government. Explain to me why Bush has appointed and/or hired so many people who have no relevant experience at the least and are incompetent at worst. And PLEASE explain to me why the Republican Party has allowed all this to happen. You can't blame it on the Democrats because they are not in power. There are many other similar questions, but I will not ask them now because any hardcore Bush supporter trying to answer these questions likely needs to take a break for the headache to diminish.

And by the way, if you want to dispute this, do not even say things like "you are just politicizing this" or "we can't criticize the President during a war," etc. Either talk substance or don't talk at all.

And it's not as if the Democrats have been much better. The same kind of issues were at play during the election, but the scope was limited to the Democratic party itself. That's why we ended up with John Kerry as the nominee. I kid you not when I say that Kerry was the last candidate I wanted to get the nomination. However, the DNC and "the powers that were" deemed before the race even started that Kerry would win. I posted a detailed rant on this subject on February 7, 2004, at the Clark Community Network, and I have also addressed it on this blog. And, regarding policies such as the Iraq War, the USA PATRIOT Act, the Homeland Security Act, etc., many Democrats decided to just go with the flow instead of speaking out in order to cover their own sorry asses and keep their positions of power.

Getting back to qualifiying my "broad brush"...My criticism does not apply to people just because they voted for Bush in 2004. Although I could never have voted for Bush under any circumstances, I can understand why some saw him as the lesser of two evils. After all, that's why I voted for Kerry. I will never agree that Bush was the lesser of two evils, but I can understand why many Republicans looked at Kerry and decided they could not vote for him. My criticism does apply, however, to anyone who blindly supports and defends Bush--and there are plenty of people who fall into that category.

And now that the wheels of the Bush Bus are showing signs that maybe no amount of spin will take away their wobble, we start seeing "disenchanted conservatives" starting to bail on Bush. I have no patience for these people for two reasons: first, for not criticizing and questioning Bush when it might have made a difference just so they could get in on the power; and second, for finally starting to criticize Bush just to avoid being caught in what they perceive as Bush's possible downfall.

4 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is now safe to criticise Bush, because such criticism can't possibly matter any more - it can't affect his reelection chances." There very well could be some truth to that statement. Isn't it the responsibility of all good Republicans to keep the Democrats out of office and vice versa? Politics truly does make strange bedfellows. If, for example, Pataki or Guiliani were to receive the Republican nod to run for president in the next election, many conservatives will vote for either one just to keep the office in the hands of the Repubs and keep out Hillary even though both men are very liberal philosophically - maybe even RINO's.

But, I will propose another reason many conservatives have supported Bush for so long. At least social conservatives. We have had the perception with his religious proclamations that he is "one of us". That he stands on the same side of issues that we do. And of course, many evangelical and fundamentalist conservatives tend to support a strong military and have no qualms in using it, therefore have supported Bush in his war in Iraq. So, he gets a pass on that issue. But, I have read that many of the religious conservatives have become disheartened with Bush because he has not taken a strong stand to overturn Roe v. Wade or oppose gay rights among other social issues that are important to their world view. We have hoped that Bush would take a stand consistent with our perception of his religious stand, but that obviously is not going to happen, so our support is beginning to wane.

Relative to your last statement, I would propose that it will be the disenchanted conservatives who will hasten Bush's downfall if he continues on his current path. Because, in reality, we have not been blindly supporting a man, but supporting the ideals that the man purportedly has espoused. If he abandons those ideals, he will be abandoned.

9/25/2005 7:12 PM  
Blogger WCharles said...

"...keep out Hillary even though both men are very liberal philosophically - maybe even RINO's."

One of my worst fears is that Hillary gets the nomination. Talk about someone who is more interested in power...

I don't know what a Republican In Name Only is anymore, and I'm not sure anyone does, for I don't know what the GOP stands for. That's why I say getting and keeping power is the key.

"We have had the perception with his religious proclamations that he is 'one of us'. That he stands on the same side of issues that we do...We have hoped that Bush would take a stand consistent with our perception of his religious stand, but that obviously is not going to happen[.]"

He talks a good game, but like in so many other ways, his actions do not match his words. Back in March I wrote extensively about this. Here are the links:

http://cosmicwheel.blogspot.com/2005/03/just-how-sincere-and-strong-is-bushs.html

http://cosmicwheel.blogspot.com/2005/03/just-how-sincere-and-strong-is-bushs_18.html

http://cosmicwheel.blogspot.com/2005/03/just-how-sincere-and-strong-is-bushs_19.html

9/26/2005 12:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't know what a Republican In Name Only is anymore, and I'm not sure anyone does, for I don't know what the GOP stands for."

And the same can be said for the Democrats today. Our society has become so much more diverse that each party to survive has to build larger and larger tents with a much wider range of core values. Or, is that no core values?

I agree with you in the broader sense that politics is about getting or maintaining power.

9/26/2005 1:51 PM  
Blogger WCharles said...

"And the same can be said for the Democrats today."

You are absolutely correct. Notice that I did not say "right." :-) There are different factions within the party, and the differences will manifest even more if Hillary runs for Prez.

Right now I would say that if Hillary gets the nomination in 2008 we will see the Democratic Party fracture big time. Many of us were forced to go along with a nominee we did not like in 2004. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you that those of us who supported Clark were often ridiculed by people in our own party. Many of the people who engaged in such ridicule were what you could term classic ultra-liberals, many of whom are the same ones pining for a Hillary nomination. Trust me, there are plenty of Democrats who do not want Hillary as the nominee, for practical as well as many other reasons.

9/26/2005 2:16 PM  

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